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Introducing our experts from Hone, Lattice, Plaid and Pando
Rea Rotholz: Welcome to our second session today as part of the Forward conference. We’ll give you just a quick second to get dialed in and settled in. Hopefully, many of you were on our first session with Markus, talking about whatās hype and whatās real.
A couple of people in the chat mentioned theyād love some tactical things that companies are doing in terms of workforce transformation and upskilling in the age of AI. And that’s why we have todayās panel, Upskilling and Performance Reimagined in the AI Era.
I am here with a powerhouse panel of amazing womenāsuper happy to be here with you all. To get started, Iāll quickly introduce myself and then would love to hear from each of you briefly about your role.
I’m Rea Rotholz, and I lead Honeās Learning Solutions team. Iāll pass it to Barbara if youād like to do your intro.
Barbara Gago: Hey everyone, thanks for joining us. I’m Barbara Gago, founder and CEO of a company called Pando. We help organizations move beyond the traditional paradigm around performance reviews and build more continuous, equitable performance systems.
Before founding Pando, I was building high-performing teams as a CMO in a hybrid growth startup. So lots of interesting insights to share, and Iām excited to be here.
Mendy Slaton: Hi everyone. My name is Mendy Slaton. I am the Senior Director of People Operations at Lattice. Lattice is an all-in-one platform giving HR teams everything they needāfrom HR to talent to AIāall in one place. Iām very excited to be having this conversation today.
Sharon Arad: Hi everyone. Excited to be here. I am Sharon Arad, and I head People and Organizational Development at Plaid, a fintech that hopefully powers most of the apps you use every day. Iām here to share how weāre reimagining people development and performance support, leveraging AI-powered capabilities.
Integrating Human Skills into Performance Conversations
Rea Rotholz: Thank you all so much for the wonderful intros. For those of you on the line, feel free to leverage the chat throughout today so that we can not only hear from our panelists, but also from each otherāhow your organizations are tackling these same challenges.
To kick us off, we know from a recent World Economic Forum Future of Jobs report that some of the top skills companies are looking for include analytical thinking, resilience, agility, and empathy. Knowing this, Iād like to hear from all of you: how are you innovating your own L&D and HR processes to equip employees with these skills?
Barbara and Mendy, given your roles at Pando and Lattice, you work with hundreds of customers facing these same challenges. Maybe, Barbara, you can get us started.
Barbara Gago: Sure. First, Iām excited to know that the humanāor softāskills are getting their day in the sun. Skills like agility, resilience, and empathy are things weāve been talking about for a long time, and now weāre at the point where they actually need to be something beyond buzzwords.
I think āvaluesā had a bad rapāsomething that sounded good in theory but wasnāt really applied in ways that brought meaning to people, especially when it comes to performance, growth, and development.
My main point is that these skills need to be articulated as business priorities. These are the skills youāre trying to develop and bring into your organization. That means they need to be measurable elements of your performance rubricāhow you want people to show up at work, and how theyāre evaluated in terms of performance.
So, what are the expected behaviors around these skills? Are they clearly defined? And how are they embedded into feedback loops that happen day to day?
Many of our customers are introducing these either as core competencies or valuesāwhatever the terminologyāweighted equally with performance outcomes in reviews or goal-setting. You canāt really be a top performer if youāre not showing these behaviors.
Embedding them into performance rubrics allows them to be referenced in one-on-ones and regular conversations. Managers can talk about behaviors theyāre modeling and assess progress more quantitativelyāeven for soft skills.
Itās not easy, but embedding those values and expectations into hiring, measurement, and performance processes makes a huge difference.
Rea Rotholz: Youāre making the soft skills into hard metricsāquantifiableāand making them just as important as hitting numbers. I love that. Mendy, I know Lattice also does a lot in this space. What are your thoughts?
Mendy Slaton: Thereās definitely been a big shift over the last few years with more focus on building high-performing teams. Thatās not new, but the focus is sharper.
We just launched our State of the People Strategy Report, which showed that performance overtook engagement for the first time. Engagement is still incredibly important, but thereās a major focus on performance now.
Thatās why weāre working closely with customers to strengthen continuous performance practices.
Itās about doing the fundamentals really wellāaligned goals, clear measures of success, regular check-ins, strong managers giving continuous feedback, and meaningful engagement to drive performance.
We also saw from the State of the People Strategy Report that 70% of high-performing teams are leaning into AI. And yes, thereās fear and nervousness, but people are experimenting. Weāre helping teams use AI in innovative, safe ways.
One area seeing traction is performance reviews. Gone are the days of spending two or three weeks writing them. If you have strong data from continuous feedback and it all lives in one platform like Lattice, the process becomes much easier.
And to be clear, we donāt want to take the humans out of it. Itās critical that managers use AI as support to have better-informed, human conversations around performance and expectations. AI just makes it faster.
Weāre also looking at quality of hire at the 90-day mark to inform how we interview for the skills that make people successful. That feedback loop between recruiting and performance is powerful.
Upskilling for Performance
Rea Rotholz: I love those examples. I think about AIās role in reducing biasālike recency bias. If you use a tool that aggregates performance notes throughout the year, it helps you reflect more accurately. But of course, weāre all still figuring out where AI might introduce bias too.
Sharon, I know youāre doing really thoughtful work at Plaid to address how employees are being upskilled in these human skills. How are you approaching that?
Sharon Arad: I love this conversation about human skills. Weāve had to defend them for so long!
At Plaid, weāre not just thinking about which humanāor powerāskills people need in the AI era. Weāre using this as an opportunity to rethink how we support peopleās development and growth.
Hereās the reality: most of us have experienced the limitations of current development approaches. Weāve worked for decades to build amazing programs, but theyāre often too slow, too fragmented, and too dependent on already maxed-out managers.
Even the best-designed programs miss the moment when learning needs to be applied. We donāt lack content. The problem is that development doesnāt show up when it matters most. Thatās what weāre trying to solve.
For us, AI is a game changer. It allows us to personalize development, reduce friction, and finally deliver learning in the flow of work. Weāve talked about that idea for 20 yearsābut now, with AI, itās actually possible.
At Plaid, weāre using AI to make development real, relevant, and easy to act on. For employees, that means role-specific development resources, guidance, and experiences at the right moment. For managers, itās support in the moments that matterālike prepping for a hard conversation or coaching through a performance challenge.
In practice, that could mean an engineer seeing exactly whatās expected to level up and getting targeted support to close gaps. Or an individual contributor interested in leadership starting a learning path and being matched with a mentor whoās made that transition. Or a manager about to have a tough conversation using a five-minute AI-powered role play to prepare.
We think this will unlock more clarity, control, and confidence for employeesāand just-in-time support for managers. Weāre still early, but the focus is clear: make development more accessible, more useful, and more integrated into work.
Rea Rotholz: Good luck, Sharon. Looking forward to the future webinar when youāve implemented it all and we can learn from you!
Mendy, I know you also had a take on this.
Mendy Slaton: Yes, a lot of what Sharon said resonates. AIāand social mediaāhave made us impatient. Our attention spans are shorter, so the days of all-day classroom training are gone.
Weāre leaning into AI to deliver just-in-time, personalized learning. People want learning in bite-sized pieces, when they need it. So weāve been experimenting with short, five-minute Looms or quick modules that help people right in the moment.
We also noticed that many employees want to explore AI but donāt know where to startāor feel too busy. So weāve been carving out time at offsites to get hands-on. At a recent people team offsite in New York, we built a co-pilot together. One of our AI champions led the session, and everyone realized how simple it could be.
They created a co-pilot using DISC profiles and StrengthsFinder data to analyze team dynamics. It helped people understand why certain interactions were challengingāreally practical stuff.
My vision is that L&D is undergoing its biggest transformation in decades. We can now truly tailor experiences to learning stylesāshort videos for some, podcasts for others, text for those who prefer reading. Before AI, that level of personalization wasnāt possible with limited resources. Now it is.
Integrating AI into the Business
Rea Rotholz: Yes! One of the biggest challenges we hear from customers is that employees are busyāthey feel they donāt have time to step away from work to do training. AI finally allows us to embed learning in the flow of work.
When Sharon talked about role-play before a real meeting, or Mendy about applying AI at an offsiteāthose are perfect examples of learning thatās integrated, immediate, and impactful.
Letās shift explicitly to AI. A few questions came in about how youāre actually measuring AI usage and proficiency. How are you tracking and promoting it? What expectations are you setting?
Barbara, how about you kick us off?
Barbara Gago: Sure. I think, as Mendy mentioned and we’re all grappling with, there’s still a lot of fear about AI replacing jobs. So I think, with these top-down CEO mandates of āeverybody must use AI,ā and then of course thereās still layoffs happening, a lot of clarity and transparency is needed around how your organization is thinking about it and what the plans are. People may or may not be aligned with your approach, and they should have the choice to decide if they want to stay or go somewhere else.
For us, the goal and my approachāand obviously weāre building tools and leveraging AI within our system as well, so itās an unspoken mandate because thatās just what weāre doingāis to have AI make humans better. Make us better at what we’re doing, like Sharon said earlier: how we can supplement and enhance and design these programs to be a lot more relevant, contextual, and delivered at the right time.
Be clear about how youāre framing it, how youāre talking about it, and be transparent about where your executives and company leadership want to go with it.
Make it fun and safe to experiment. We do monthly hackathonsāyou could do quarterly hackathonsābut give everybody space and time to learn and explore the tools. Set people up on cross-functional teams, let them build internal products or solve solutions so they can understand in a safe environment and test different cases.
This kind of thing creates excitement and may help you come up with great solutions to real company problems because people are working bottom-up.
As for measurementāpeople asked about how itās measuredāand even with soft skills, the more itās integrated into how people are actually measured, the better. How are you measuring performance for somebody? What does that incorporate? That needs to be clearly defined and documented, and you have to actually put your money where your mouth is in terms of delivering against that.
Then the behavior changes. If peopleās jobs and income and livelihoods are associated with itāwhich they areāthis creates a very clear connection. Thereās intrinsic motivation, but people also want to know how these things impact their role and career. Associating it clearly is an easy way to see that happen.
Rea Rotholz: I love that, Barbaraāyour theme is clarity. Whatās clear and measurable is what an organization will do.
Mendy Slaton: And if Barbaraās word is clarity, then my word would be intentionality. Thereās a big expectation that weāre seeing efficiency and productivity gains that maybe arenāt quite there yet. We need to dedicate intentional resourcesāwhether thatās a percent of peopleās time or specific resources in some casesābecause this takes a lot of work. Itās a complete transformation.
We started an AI committee about a year and a half ago with myself, the VP of IT, security, complianceārepresentation from around the businessāto make sure we can experiment without putting the business at risk. L&D is a critical part of that. Weāre thinking about the people side and org design. Itās a holistic, multi-pronged approach.
You have to signal at the top that this matters and that people should spend time on it. But you also need the ICs who are champions doing cool stuff behind the scenesāand then you want to put those people on a platform and say, āThis is what good looks like.ā Where Iāve seen people really unlock is simple lunch-and-learn screen shares: āWow, this is a universal use case I could use to make my day-to-day better.ā
A great example: we have a manager who openly shared they have ADHD and have been able to use AI as a superpower. They transcribe meetings so they can stay focused, then get clear summaries and action items. They also built their own co-pilotāsimilar to what I mentioned at our people team offsiteāusing team profiles to help craft feedback in a way that will be well received by each personās style.
Other employees with disabilities saw that and thought, āThis can help me, too.ā Spotlighting those use cases internally builds organic momentum.
Rea Rotholz: Sharing the real-life storiesāgone are the note-taking days. No oneās your designated note-taker anymore; itās AI. What about you, SharonāPlaid?
Sharon Arad: Since weāre doing words, Iāll be provocative: inevitable.
People who say they donāt have time to get up to speed on AI, or to learn, or to experimentāand still expect to have a jobāneed to rethink.
At Plaid, thereās an expectation that everyoneānot just technical teamsāfind meaningful ways to use AI to improve how they work. We have an ecosystem of Slack channels, AI days, AI enablement, and even a dedicated new role. At the same time, the company has identified strategic use cases.
We need everyone to roll up their sleeves and experiment, and we need to be clear that itās more important to be curious and learn right now than to be perfect. Weāre not going to see ROI for a while. Most companies donāt even have ROI targets yet because itās so new. But be very clear about where youāll get ROI as a companyāengineering and product for usāand then the people team can explore complementary use cases that support and accelerate those priorities.
Bottom line: I donāt think we have a choice. Make it fun, playful, lower-risk, and safeāand be very clear this will become a critical skill for keeping your job.
Rea Rotholz: āInevitableā feels accurate. The tactical themes Iām hearing: youāre giving people the imperative; youāre being clear (Barbara) about expectations; and youāre providing supportāhackathons, learning days, offsite demos, testimonials, examples. This is a conference full of HR and L&D peopleāweāre here to enable our organizations. That means making sure employees feel they have what they need to try, experiment, and maybe fail.
Weāre just about at time. Any last quick tips?
Sharon Arad: I can jump in.
If youāre in L&D or performance enablement, donāt start with a solutionāstart with a moment. Figure out where people are getting stuck, where theyāre unprepared, when they feel unsupported or unclearāand go there. Find a light way to provide value in that moment.
Rea Rotholz: I love thatāfind the moments that matter. With that, we are at time. I want to make sure you have enough time to make it to our next session.
A big thank you to Barbara, Mendy, and Sharon for joining us todayāand thank you to everyone who dialed in, participated in the chat, and joined us at Forward. Weāll see you at the next session. Thank you.


